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Welcome!Welcome to our Web site! Are you a Dumville yourself? Or do you have some other connection or special interest? If so, we'd love to hear from you. Please do e-mail, and/or write in our Guest Book. It's been great fun researching the Tree, and planning the Web site. We've already found out a lot, but there's masses more to add and discover. Not least, of course, the origins of the Grand Old Molecatcher himself, Robert Dumville. We know he spent most of his life in Hunton, north Yorkshire, where he died in 1857 aged anything from 90 to 105, depending on your source! He married twice, and had at least 12 children, whose births span some 41 years, from 1789 to 1830. Many of Robert's sons and grandsons were molecatchers too. Finding so many molecatchers on the Family Tree was a welcome change from the usual 'ag lab' (agricultural labourer). Hence, as you'll have guessed, our choice of Web site logo and our interest in the little velvet gentlemen. Now for the mystery. Try as we (and very many others) may, we can't discover who Robert's parents were or where he came from. In the 1851 census he said he was born in Masham, north Yorkshire, but there's no trace of him in the records there or in adjoining parishes. All we know for sure about his father is what appears in an 1891 biography of his son Joseph: he 'was a farmer and lifelong resident of England. He married, and reared a family of industrious sons and daughters, who settled in different parts of their native land'. The www.familysearch.org website gives Robert's place of birth as Lurgan, Ireland, and his father as Robert Dumvill (c1735-1819). Other sources give his father as William Dumvill (c1740-1793), brother of Robert Dumvill (c1735-1819). This is all unverified speculation. (See note.) However the chances are high that he is linked to the well-documented Cheshire line of Dumvilles/Domvilles, which descends from Hugh of Avranches (near Donville, Normandy) and Oxton, who came over to England with William the Conqueror in 1066. But when did he come to north Yorkshire, and why? And what is his connection with other similarly-named people we have found in villages near Masham and Hunton? Especially, for instance, John Dumell (c1696-1790), who lived at Morton Flatts, just across the fields from Bramper Farm. The farm was tenanted by Thomas Smothwaite, whose daughter Margery married Robert. Can you help solve the mystery of Robert's origins? Thank you to everyone who has helped with the research. Special thankyous to Roma (Dumville) Cresswell, to Clifford Dumville of Ottawa, Canada, to his sister Elaine, and to the late Harry Dumville of Stowe, Vermont, USA. Thank you too to the Grand Old Molecatcher himself, Robert Dumville, without whom none of us would be here! We hope you enjoy the Web site. Jill Holroyd (research and text), Miles Holroyd (Web site) Note: We apologise for any errors or inaccuracies. Please let us know so that we can correct them. You may be interested to know that publishing the personal data of living family members on the internet is exempt from the provisions of the 1998 Data Protection Act, section 36, 'domestic purposes' exemption. However, we realise that some people may prefer some or full anonymity. We have therefore included only limited information on living people (birth and marriage dates and places, and spouse's names), and included more information only if we have permission. If we have inadvertently included something you would prefer excluded, please tell us at once so that we can put matters right. |
We recently received a message for the Guest Book from Alistair Caie, Secretary to the Parochial Church Council of St. Mary's Church in Nettleton, Wiltshire. The Reverend Charles Compton Domvile (1816-1898) had been Rector of their church and they are keen to restore the memorials to two of his children Captain John Russell Compton Domvile and Eva Kathleen Domvile. A photograph of the memorials and information on the project to restore them have been added to a page titled Domvile Family Gravestones, which can be found by clicking 'Photographs' then 'Domville Families' then 'Domvile Family Gravestones'.
Paul Davison recently sent us a transcript which his uncle had made in the 1980s of some notes in a family Bible. These referred to John Domville (1785-1843) of Thornton Watlass, Yorkshire and his family. This is the family listed on the page for John Dumell (c1696-1790) under the sub-heading 'John Dummel/Domville (1785-1843) and his children'. The information from the family Bible notes has been added there and to Note 2 on the same page. Was John Dummel/Domville (1785-1843) of Thornton Watlass related to Robert Dumville (c1767-1857) of nearby Hunton?
Edward Alan Domville mentions John Domville who was one of the sons of John Dummel/Domville (1785-1843) on page 161 of his book 'We Came With The Conqueror': 'John Domville was born in Thirn, North Yorkshire, at the turn of the 19th Century and moved north to Darlington on his marriage to Ann Shaw of Hurworth, County Durham. The family of John, a carpet factory foreman, and Ann included Joshua, who became the first stationmaster at Appleby in Westmoreland. He completed 50 years with the old North Eastern line for which he received an inscribed walking-stick. Joshua married Elizabeth Slinger of Appleby and after she died, he married her sister, but the ceremony had to take place in Norway for such a union was against English law. One of Joshua's sisters was a nurse in service with the Lennox Boyd family.'
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Una Dunville (1903-1958) is the subject of one of the chapters in the book 'Tales of Normansfield', written by Andy Merriman. The chapter, entitled 'A Distillery, Several Balloonists and a Redhead', includes transcripts of letters from Una's parents, Colonel and Mrs. John Dunville, to the doctors and other staff at Normansfield Hospital. 'Tales of Normansfield' charts the remarkable history of a unique hospital for learning disabled children and adults. Founded by the pioneering Dr. John Langdon Down in 1868, his groundbreaking use of educative ideas, drama and music therapy is a story of enlightenment, dedication and vision. The hospital gained an international reputation in the treatment of its patients and is a testament to the extraordinary foresight of Langdon Down. The book was published in 2007 by the Down's Syndrome Association (ISBN 0-9555228-0-3) and can be obtained from them, telephone 0845 230 0372, www.dsa-uk.com, for a price of £9.99 plus postage and packaging. This is not a paid advertisement but please mention that you learnt about the book on the Dunville family website! |
Can you solve the puzzle? Is Robert Dumville (c1767-1857) related to John Dumell (c1696-1790)? The pages are normally reached by clicking 'The People', 'Generation 23' and 'The People', 'Generation 21'.